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[tree_and_leaf]

Does anyone out there happen to have access to the new German translation of 'Lord of the Rings'? (That is, not the Carroux version, but the new one where Sam calls Frodo 'Chef'? I would be eternally grateful to anyone who could provide me with a copy of the beginning of Ch12 of the Fellowship, down to "I am not a Black Rider, Sam,” he said gently, “nor am I in league with them. I am trying to discover something of their movements; but I have found nothing.”

I'm teaching a class on translation, and it would be interesting to be able to contrast two translations which take a very different approach to the text...

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[dolorous-ett.livejournal.com]

Can't help with the texts, but I do think that's a fantastic idea for a translation class!

Let me know how it goes...

[tree_and_leaf]

Thanks - hopefully I can get suitable materials somehow. Or I could do it another week.

[sacred-sarcasm.livejournal.com]

I'm afraid I can't help either, but it is a brilliant idea for teaching a class!

Btw, speaking of German - I'm a complete beginner looking to learn German well enough to read academic texts (help!). Can you suggest any textbook(s) useful for learning German (esp.grammar) 'properly'? All the stuff I've been able to find focuses on learning to pick someone up in a German bar after only learning for 3 days.

I'd like to learn the basics before going to any classes, because beginner language classes will drive me INSANE

[tree_and_leaf]

Hm. Textbooks do tend to the 'how to pull' (or 'how to get drunk'). Off the top of my head, the only thing that occurs is that Timothy Buck's 'Concise German Grammar' is very well adapted to beginner-to-intermediate needs, but it's not, obviously, a textbook. There used to be quite a good workbook called 'Aktion Grammatik', but that may be out of print.

[sacred-sarcasm.livejournal.com]

Thanks - I'll go and hunt for those!

[aervir.livejournal.com]

How urgently do you need it? I've only got the older Carroux translation, but I could check at the nearest public library whether they've got Krege's version.

[tree_and_leaf]

Well, I'd need it by Thirsday morning (serves me right for not being organised...) Don't worry if you haven't got time to look, though.

Oddly enough, Bodley has about six copies of the Carroux, of various ages, but no Krege (some would say this was evidence of good taste, of course) There are some dodgy copies of LOTR translations on the internet, but the ones I've found thus far are also all Carroux.

[aervir.livejournal.com]

I might try it on Wednesday (tonight and tomorrow are right out -- sorry!), but I don't want to make any promises because I might not be able to keep them.

[tree_and_leaf]

Well, IF you have time, that would be great. There's still another week of term after this, of course, so I could always give myself a bit more time to try and find it...

[aervir.livejournal.com]

I tried it at two public libraries today -- one was closed because of their Betriebsausflug and the other one's copies of LOTR had alredy been borrowed and wre not due until the beginning of December. Sorry!

[tree_and_leaf]

Well, thanks so much for looking!

[nineveh-uk.livejournal.com]

Is there a "search this book" facility on Amazon.de?

[tree_and_leaf]

Just tried that... the answer, unfortunately, is 'yes, but the publisher isn't co-operating'. Bah.

[juno-magic.livejournal.com]

Do you still need the text? When I bought LOTR for my husband, they only had that blasted new translation in the shops, so that awful thing graces our bookshelves ...

[tree_and_leaf]

It would be wonderful if you could send me it! My e-mail address is treeandleafster [AT} googlemail.com

Thank you so much... and my commiserations ;)