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  • 16:48 There is an unspeakable irony about US torturers using 'Born in the USA' as an interrogation tool in Guantanamo. Wicked and stupid to boot. #
  • 17:14 The latest Fresh Expression of Being Church: www.ekklesia.co.uk/node/8175 . A good thing, I think, though not really my sort of thing #
  • 17:16 But it's good to see it's not being entirely left to the Evangelicals. The initial report didn't seem to know Catholic Anglicans existed, #
  • 17:17 but then given that it mentioned the Eucharist once in what was supposed to be a paper on the future of worship, that's a bit of a minor #
  • 17:19 point. I mean, honestly, you can't just leave the Sacrament out of the picture! Possibly I should have ljed this rather than twittered, but #
  • 17:19 I feel I've been spamming a lot lately... #
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Date: 2008-12-12 12:16 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] em-h.livejournal.com
I dunno, I'm sorry, but I kind of hate the whole Fresh Expressions thing. We had someone visiting from Contemplative Fire a couple weeks ago and I actually had a temper fit and walked out on his presentation. It's not just that the style is not my kind of thing; it's that what I get from it is an almost coercive sense of YOU MUST DO THINGS OUR WAY AND LIKE IT, AND FIND IT DEEPLY MEANINGFUL TOO, embodied in crowd peer pressure. I know that I'm way unduly sensitive to that kind of thing -- I mean, I feel that way about spoken word poetry jams, too, so my threshold is low. But it still gets up my nose in a major way.

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Date: 2008-12-12 12:32 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] em-h.livejournal.com
I dunno, I guess on a theoretical level that's a good thing, but from a selfish point of view it means they're that much more likely to turn up in my vicinity and generally get in my way. So, yeah, I would be selfishly perfectly happy for them to stay in their bubble and leave me alone.

I don't think they're particularly interested in the week-in-week-out parochial situation; and to that extent I have to grant them that it may in fact be a dying model, at least in some places. But I don't think their way of substituting for it has any real long-term potential.

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