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tree_and_leaf ([personal profile] tree_and_leaf) wrote2007-11-03 10:36 am
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Dear Grauniad,

it's not that I can't see why you find the story quirky and amusing and generally reminiscent of Father Ted, because I can:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/religion/Story/0,,2204547,00.html

But honestly: while I don't expect you to treat the matter reverently, couldn't you come up with a slightly less lame way of refering to the consecrated wine than holy tipple? Fail.

I suppose, incidentally, this puts paid to the urban myth that priests are exempt from the breathylyser test in Ireland. I suspect that the claims of an Anglican priest of my acquaintance, that Church of England clergy are exempt from the law on speeding if they're going to take a service are similarly mythical. (In case anyone is getting worried, my friend has neither a driving licence or a car, so don't panic about being mown down by a vicar on his way to Evensong....)

[identity profile] sacred-sarcasm.livejournal.com 2007-11-03 12:18 pm (UTC)(link)
I agree entirely with your assessment. FAIL.
(Also, I don't get the priests' defence that it's important and often unavoidable for them to drink - a point I do understand - because surely what's at stake is whether they're safe to drive. If they are unsafe to drive, it doesn't matter how important or job-related the alcohol consumption was. It's like the defence given by that government minister who was driving whilst on his mobile phone. The defence isn't "it was a very important phone call", the defence should be "it wasn't affecting how safely I was driving")

Same story as reported in the Telegraph: Pettifogging bureaucracy contributes to Catholic persecution or PC Brigade now have sights set on the Church

and in the Times: New Evidence of Drink-Driving Priests Threatens Split in Anglican Communion - Ruth Gledhill reports on the imminent schism.

[identity profile] sacred-sarcasm.livejournal.com 2007-11-03 10:41 pm (UTC)(link)
"people are sometimes embarrassed by my humility" you know.

[identity profile] lilliburlero.livejournal.com 2007-11-03 12:58 pm (UTC)(link)
I wonder would it be OK for the priest to take communion in only one kind if he thinks he may have to drive later in the day? The answer we always got, as baby Catholics, when we asked why laypeople didn't get a go of the wine, was that both body and blood were present in the one kind. Sauce for the goose, sauce for the gander?

[identity profile] lilliburlero.livejournal.com 2007-11-03 04:29 pm (UTC)(link)
Hmm. So maybe the communicant could drink the wine and the priest abstain?

I'm also just giggling over the thought of an exchange like:
"The blood of Christ."
"No, no -- I'm driving."

[identity profile] lilliburlero.livejournal.com 2007-11-03 06:05 pm (UTC)(link)
I think it's still 0.8mg/100ml of blood, same as in the UK, but there's a legislation pending to make it 0.5mg. I wouldn't have thought a couple of sips of wine would breach that, but we love a good kerfuffle, especially when "the politically correct brigade" can be accused of something (like trying to save people's lives, or trivial stuff like that).

[identity profile] lilliburlero.livejournal.com 2007-11-04 11:26 am (UTC)(link)
I'd like to join the politically correct brigade, but I don't know where the recruiting office is...

[identity profile] carlanime.livejournal.com 2007-11-03 02:48 pm (UTC)(link)
That would be an interesting way to die, though. I'd feel sorry for the vicar, of course, unless it were certain he'd be *completely* exonerated and there was film footage of the person leaping out of a hedge or something...

[identity profile] ellid.livejournal.com 2007-11-04 03:19 am (UTC)(link)
*has sudden vision of Father Jack drinking the Toilet Duck again*